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Writers as Teachers: a reflection of the pros and cons of education and the written word

A reflection about creative writers and their merit in teaching writing. What are the benefits of learning from a seasoned writer, what are some of the negative experiences. Is there exclusion present within the writing classroom, are writing teachers prone to picking favorites. Piece would be part reflection, would touch on the needs of education and those new to the craft of writing.

  • It would also be helpful to consider whether or not writing is an innate talent, and whether or not you can write well or eloquently is not so much a matter of practice as a matter of brain patterns? Or of the nurture your parents gave you in respect to books and the written word? This topic has a lot to explore, and I think all artists, performing or visual, can also chime in with opinions, since this idea of proficiency being an automatic qualification to teach is quickly becoming problematic in the art worlds. Teaching is in itself a skill that not everyone can handle well - what makes a good teacher is an important question that needs to be addressed now that education is becoming a huge factor in determining a person's lifelong fate. It's nice to see some discussion on it! – EulalieS 9 years ago
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  • Interesting topic! I read a piece similar to this issue a while ago on Flavorwire; it was called "Should I Get an MFA?" and consisted of several writers' opinions surrounding current education and the abilities of a writer. Might help anyone who wants to tackle this topic. – emilydeibler 9 years ago
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  • I was a writing teacher for 25 years. First, in literacy for some students who were not literate in their first language and later for academic writing. Having said that, with some trepidation that now my work will be scrutinized more closely, I loved the creative expression of each person developing his/her unique voice within the conventions. Manipulations of traditional methods and acquiring skill in blending in your own narrative or even at times defying conventions to make a point all serve to foster expressing yourself. Learning the basics can help someone get started with a framework and hopefully creativity takes over from there to collaboration. The ultimate piece following these steps can be a rich and rewarding experience if helpful in developing a writer's voice. I have seen the confidence people gain in written communication once a few basic steps are followed, so I am definitely on the side of learning from peers and maybe this article could explore not only learning from experienced writers but collaborating with even younger people. It helps to keep writing fresh, for me at least. – Munjeera 9 years ago
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  • The results of this discussion may be highly opinionated. – T. Palomino 2 years ago
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Prosody; the Real Struggle for Poets

Prosody has become almost a dying art in poetry, both on and off the age. With a rise in spoken-word, modern writing styles has kind of thrown the traditional rule-book out the window. But is proper meter and rhyme scheme a thing of Shakespearean past? Perhaps, by reviving the techniques behind the art form, we can reach a new level of creativity when it comes to poetry.

  • Also, the writer could definitely look into education courses, workshops, etc. to see how they teach the rules before the artist breaks them. – Jaye Freeland 9 years ago
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  • Recently I have started writing poetry as part of my doctorate of Education program where I am using poetic inquiry in an Autoetnograhical Arts Based Research framework. I am finding that, for the most part, the poems have a mind of their own...and while some are free form others take on rhythm and rhyme...with the result that the poem will generally seek unexpected paths... – bdecker 8 years ago
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Ethnic Identity in Contemporary Literature Characters

Do you feel it is important to write to the racial/ethnic identity of a character in contemporary literature, even if the subject of the work isn't directly related to that identity? If so, how much of that racial/ethnic experience is appropriate or necessary to include? How do these levels change if the writer is a different race/ethnicity from the character, and where is the line of insensitivity? For example, hypothetically, a Latinx writer wants to write an Indonesian character in their Young Adult sci-fi novel – how relevant is the character's identity as an Indonesian to the writing? Or, another real-life example, in David Levithan's "Every Day", the main character A wakes up in someone else's body every morning, an identity-less character bodysnatching other characters with numerous different racial/ethnic identities – how important, necessary, and/or appropriate would it have been to include the different racial/ethnic experiences A could potentially go through as these identities, especially considering the race/ethnicity of the author?

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    Kindle vs Print; Spanning the Digital Divide

    How has the rising popularity in Kindle and ebooks hindered the print medium? Will physical hardcover and paperback books someday go into extinction? While Kindles appeal to the younger, hipper audience, paperbacks still seem to retain a sort of traditional class. Why? Even though they both have their arguable pros and cons, what will become of printed works in the near and long-term future?

    • The funny thing is, the content of this article would likely have been different less than a year ago. Kindle sales seemed to skyrocket for a while, but as I understand it, paperbacks are now on the rise again. From my own standpoint, I do better electronically so I wonder if the target age group has an effect on that. – mattdoylemedia 9 years ago
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    • This is such an interesting topic as it becomes increasingly relevant. A lot of people these days have e-readers and a lot of the time ebooks are cheaper. But there is diffidently a core community that love their books more than ebooks. I personally use both. – Hpfan28 9 years ago
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    • On the other end, the sudden rise in the e-reader brought attention to reading in general, so in a sense it helped the book world as a whole, including paperbacks. – LaRose 9 years ago
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    • I personally prefer printed books over an electronic source, but that's just me. My mom used to work for a book manufacturing company and she would often talk about how their business took a hit after the release of Kindles and Nooks. I have a Nook myself, but never use it. I feel like the people younger than me, who grew up with a lot of technology at their finger tips, enjoy eBooks more just because they are used to things like that. – diehlsam 9 years ago
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    • From your particular stance, I feel that ebooks will eventually dominate the publishing sector. Not necessarily because it is the way of the future, but that it is one solution that avoids the destruction of many trees. It is appearing in other parts of life: recycling to regulate waste, solar energy to eliminate detrimental emissions, so on, so forth. I guess: eventually people will just have to use an ear device or eyeglasses of some sort to tune into satellite transmissions as a form of reading material. – L:Freire 6 years ago
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    Entertaining articles vs articles with depth

    Everyday when I log onto Facebook, I see people sharing articles like "10 ways to get the man of your dreams," "Why you aren't happy," "The happiest couples do this to survive…"

    These irk me. Articles like this are polluting your brain. People read these articles thinking, oh THAT'S why I'm not happy and THAT'S why our relationship is so bad. Whereas actual news articles or long, in depth articles do not get as much attention because they're not listed out in a way that people can read quickly and get advice about their lives…a comparison between the two.

    • The most important think to keep in mind when writing an article is 'Who is my audience?' The reason articles like Buzzfeed put stuff on Facebook it to get likes and to have them be shared. More in-depth articles, like content seen on The Artifice, are advertised on Facebook and Twitter, but like you said, they not shared as much as they are with entertaining articles. This is probably because entertaining articles are faster to read, while more in-depth articles take 10-20 minutes to ready, depending on the subject. – Aaron Hatch 9 years ago
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    • How interesting! There's a couple of different directions I could see this topic going in. The author might want to focus on where certain types of articles are advertised, and why they're effective. It also could be discussed how, as you explained, entertaining articles cause people to have this mindset you describe, having an almost impulsive need to become happier people. What might turn someone on or off to entertaining articles, or to in-depth articles? Could in-depth articles also be just as toxic? – James Smith 9 years ago
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    • Can you reflect more on why the articles are irksome? Might there be some benefits to these lighter articles even if they are not deep or definitive? – jaa9n 9 years ago
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    • While it is easy to fall into the pit that is BuzzFeed, I do agree with how sad it is that the average media user cannot stick with a single piece of written content for more than a few sentences at a time. This is obviously a very frustrating ideal for you (among a lot of other people), so it might be hard to keep this from being a rant/stream of consciousness. I would love for this article to come to life, but be clear and descriptive about it! Why is BuzzFeed bad? What is it doing to society? Why are traditional long form articles like The-Artifice better/important! :) :) – madistyle94 9 years ago
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    • I think would also help to consider the popularity of lifestyle blogs--those where the author tells of their experiences and give tips on a happier life. Their content is mainly entertainment, but also has a certain amount of depth as the author truly wants to help readers. – Fox 9 years ago
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    The Efficacy of Prologues vs. Starting in the Middle

    Novels, especially in the genre of Fantasy have long relied on prologues which give exposition for the reader so that they can understand the fictional world's origins and major conflicts. There is another approach which has been used which is to start in the middle of the conflict, and explain origins later as the action is moving.

    Explore the pros and cons of both approaches, and make suggestions for what kind of stories work best with the two approaches.

    • I've been thinking about this in the context of mystery/ thrillers, where there is often a prologue from the POV of the killer, and then the main part of the book is taken up with having the detective catch up with the character with that POV. In both cases, I think the prologue throws up a wall that allows the writer to violate the old rule that you can't switch points of view-- because readers process the prologue and the main narrative as two separate-but-related texts. If that makes sense. – MattDube 9 years ago
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    Publishing Fanfiction

    The wildly popular Fifty Shades trilogy was initially written as Twilight fanfiction. Does this create issues related to originality or creativity? Should there be legal ramifications when a "published fanfiction" becomes as popular as Fifty Shades did? What lines are drawn to differentiate between these two series? Were enough lines drawn between the two? (The relationship between these two series are used as an example– if any other series exist with a similar relationship, feel free to use those instead.)

    • I haven't read either of these series before. But through osmosis, I believe I've been able to gather that while both series have a similar structure in regards to the development of the relationship between the two protagonists in each, and a similar atmosphere, the respective stories and the routes they travel on are completely unrelated to one another. The names, settings, situations, and general focus of each are entirely different, so I wouldn't think one could officially stake any legal claim to Fifty Shades of Gray being a knock-off or something, because it's different enough that it isn't even Parody, it's its own thing. However, I do believe there are more appropriate examples where the two works are so entirely similar that one could suggest a legal issue could arise. But one does have to be very careful when dealing with that sort of thing, because anybody is capable of coming up with an idea someone else already did, completely autonomously. Two unrelated people, who never met each other, or saw each other's work before, could come up with the exact same idea. It happened with the movie camera, and the telephone. So it can certainly happen with anything else. – Jonathan Leiter 9 years ago
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    • I took a class on fanfiction and this was brought up and the only thing that made Fifty Shade not a fanfic and it's own series was the profit. That's really all the difference is that differentiates fanfic from fic-fic or a spin-off is it's acceptance, popularity and revenue. Fanfic isn't supposed to make any money lest they be infringing on creative property so if you just change the names.. presto! "New story." It's hard to draw the line, really, because nothing is original anymore, every plot line has been done somewhere, you just have to take the old and package it a different way. – Slaidey 9 years ago
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    • I'm doing NaNoWriMo right now, and many tips I read from fellow writers involve borrowing certain ideas/themes from your favourite books/films, even just to get out of a block. Ultimately, all literature is influenced by life events and things you've watched/read. Arguably, the only difference between books published that started as fanfiction and "normal" books could be that the fanfiction authors admit their outside influences. That could be a perspective to explore with this topic. – Laura Jones 9 years ago
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    • I think the wild success of 50 Shades of Grey was certainly something unpredictable, and I believe that the major profit it made is concerning, considering it was blatantly (and admittedly) a fan fiction of another popular series. Fan-fiction fits it's name - fiction made by fans, for fans. It isn't an original product in it's essence, it uses characters created by others, no matter how good the author is in developing plots, it's still based on the work of other's. There was hardly enough lines drawn between Twilight and 50 Shades to make it it's own creative work, in my opinion. – Kathryn Connolly 9 years ago
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    • If I remember correctly, there was a time a few years ago when Square Enix (the video game publisher famous for the Final Fantasy series) was actually looking for fanfiction for contest submissions. Nowadays, it's easy to find actual contests/competitions for fanfiction. Some offer monetary rewards, some offer gift cards, and some simply offer recognition and "badges" for the site. Regardless, it's safe to say that published fanfiction as a whole is an emerging market in the publishing industry--one that should be watched carefully, as I think it will soon make its own name for itself as legitimate literature in ways. Good topic idea! – Christina Legler 9 years ago
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    Why we can't get enough revenge.

    People have been reading and writing stories of revenge for about as long as stories have existed. From tales of vengeful gods/goddesses, to The Count Of Monte Cristo, to Kill Bill, it seems like people through the ages really love their stories of revenge. The theme isn't just found in writing, we see it pop up anywhere there is a story line: video games, comics, even songs. Are these forms of entertainment a way for us to vicariously feel like we've gotten back at our own enemies? Or do we simply delight in the dark side of these stories?

    • Interesting topic. I appreciate that you've even thought of this topic, because it may be something that should be looked at from a moral perspective. Like perhaps our love for revenge-stories reveals something wrong with humanity as it now stands. Or perhaps vice versa. Just a thought... – Dominic Sceski 9 years ago
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    • I like this topic... lots to discuss here! You're right; it is a very timeless theme. I wonder, though, to what degree this revenge theme reflects real life (yet another facet to explore!). Not everyone is revenge-seeking - perhaps they do get their satisfaction through fiction - but there are the occasional news stories, personal stories, or historical events that tell us that people do have a vengeful side that occasionally surfaces in very real ways. – Laura Jones 9 years ago
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    • I think revenge is a universal desire. Not necessarily in a dark way, but most people have been the subject of an unpleasant experience, and the feeling to get back at someone is natural. – TheoParry 9 years ago
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    • It is an emotional motive, and therefore is very helpful for writers when explaining a characters extreme actions. Good for drama too! – Candice Evenson 9 years ago
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    • I feel like people sometimes enjoy a sense of revenge or cruelty because it feels good or nice. After if they carry out the revenge or not is when we feel satisfied or hateful. – Wanderlust 9 years ago
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    • It may be helpful to look towards academia surrounding Melodrama as a form (think cape and sword, grand sweeping sentiment, spectacle) and how it has really taken over the way we tell stories. – Tiffany 9 years ago
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    • This is a really good topic. What if one were to look at it in light of Christianity, for example? There, the two concepts of justice and forgiveness seem to be at a premium, but it is not always easy to see how they relate. I guess the question you might come up against is the relationship of feelings aroused by literature versus feelings aroused by life. For example, if one believes in NOT getting revenge, will revenge literature thwart this commitment? Or will revenge literature instead help to put the dark feelings aside? Etc. – JWHorton 8 years ago
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